Emmure & Endwell: War of the words

30 May 2008 | 6:20 pm | Staff Writer
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"I don't know if they are just fucking dumb or naive but how the fuck do you show up to..."

The hardcore band Endwell were recently kicked off a tour in the US with Emmure, On Broken Wings and others. They posted this statement a few days ago...



"First off, we want to apologize to everyone who was planning on

coming out and seeing us on the Mosh Lives tour but unfortunately as of

yesterday (Tuesday, May 27th) we have been kicked off of the tour

because of a T-Shirt. Yep that's right. Apparently some people can't

take a joke. We were stoked for this tour and looking forward to seeing

a lot of old friends and playing some fun shows. Without getting into

all the details well leave it at this; some of our good friends recieve

an email from a certain Tyrant telling them that if we weren't removed

from the tour immediately that they would have hell to pay and the

outcome was us being asked to leave the tour. We basically drove 30

hours straight to meet up with the tour in Texas and now 2 days later

were driving 20 hours back home. It was a good waste of a few hundred

dollars in gas.



"Needless to say were beyond bummed... either

way you guys should still go out and upport the Mosh Lives tour. There

are some great bands and it's a great show everynight. We want to thank

Recon, After The Burial, Ligeia, Emmure and On Broken Wings for being

cool dudes and hopefully well get back out there with a few of you

again at some point.



"All in all this is just another bump in

the road and were not gonna let it slow us down. Our new EP (Revenge Is

A Healthy Motive) came out today on Itunes and through our online

store. We're heading up to Canada in 2 weeks with our pals in Means and

then right after that we head out on a full U.S. tour with Stray From

The Path and The Ghost Inside starting in California in July. Can't

hold us down... if any hardcore bands are reading this and wanna go on

tour hit us up! We're gonna be doin' our full-length at the end of the

summer and we're not looking to be home... ever!



"You can see the shirt on our blogspot."



Emmure fired back with this...




"Let me first start by saying we as a band have been friends with

these guys for a while so this is in no way partial to one side or

another. Some of you may have noticed that Endwell has been removed

from The Mosh Lives Tour. I'd just like to clear up a few things and

set the record straight.



"This is a respctable tour with

respectable bands and band members. This is our tour and us as Emmure

must make sure that this tour is not hindered by immaturity since we

are responoble for 6 bands 36 people and all their actions.



"Endwell

has been surrounded and plauged with bad decision making since day one.

As youll recall they were kicked off a bayside tour as well for lack of

any morality, respect, or loyalty to the people that were helping them

and were supposed to be friends with.



"They are quick to talk

shit but what they won't tell you is that when they first got signed to

victory they were pumped they loved it they wouldn't even help us out

and get on a show when we needed it because they said they weren't a

local band anymore and they couldnt just do that. Victory put them in a

Hollywood recording studio for over a month which excessivly exceeded

their budget and time. They were provided with one of the top directors

for their music video and put in every major music magazine... You

would think they would be thankful.



"After their record bombed

to put it gently they started getting pissy and blaming everyone

underneath the sun except for themselves which seems to be the trend of

that band. And all but 2 members quit.



"Before this tour started

we started hearing how they were talking shit about us and our record

which we confronted them about and they confessed and with a good heart

and them being our supposed friends we let it slide and kept them on he

tour. The very first day they show up they have a shirt they are

selling that is blatantly a slap in the face to victory records and us.



"I

don't know if they are just fucking dumb or naive but how the fuck do

you show up to a victory records band headlining tour with that type of

shot and think its funny? And expect for it to be ok and get away with

it?



"Despite what they say they dug their own grave and did this

to themselves noone is the bad guy in this except them despite their

best efforts to tarnish the face of victory records their true colors

really shine through on this one and its just a new low in a bands

carreer that doesnt need to get any lower



"Don't shit where you sleep or your gonna wake up in shit."



AND the response from Endwell....



"So we tried to keep this as impersonal as possible due to the fact

that Emmure were at one time good friends of ours. But apparently that

is no longer the case.



a) When we signed to Victory we were

actually on tour with Emmure, and yes of course we were beyond excited

to be signed as any band would be. From day ONE we pushed Emmure to the

Victory staff as much as we could. Giving staff members CD's and shirts

and hyping them up... because that's what friends do. When we were told

we were going into


the studio in 4 weeks we handed Emmure a fully

booked US tour w/ Farewell To Freeway that our old bass player had

booked himself (due to the fact that we had recording obligations).

Every chance we got we would try to help get their name out there,

whether it mean wearing their shirts in promos or talking about them in

interviews at one point we were even considered 'brother-bands.'



b)

In response to Emmure's statements about our Hollywood recording

budget: we didn't get a say in the matter, the studio time was booked

and the director was chosen for us. Bottom line... we were immediately

disgusted by the budget and the outcome and because of that we made it

a point to record our next release on a much smaller budget. In fact it

was 1/40th of the Victory budget! We started recording it with no

labels in mind and we had our friends Bryan Goldsman and Aram Abgharian

record and mix it for us. We figured we could do things right and be

able to help out some up and coming engineer/producers/friends, and

we're very happy with the outcome. Once we recorded it we decided to

work with a smaller label that has integrity and passion for music and

even a some compassion for human beings as well.



c) As for shit

talking, I think Emmure did enough of that in their statement which

began "Let me first start by saying we as a band have been friends with

these guys for a while so this is in no way partial to one side or

another" and then proceeded to bash us for 5 paragraphs. I think it's

obvious that someone was influencing their words.



We don't have

to sit here and 'tarnish' anything. Facts speak for themselves I think

it's apparent whose true colors are shining through in this situation.

There's nothing else to say. This whole situation sucks. When we left

the tour it was all hugs and friendly goodbyes the best way to put it

is in the words of John Joseph, "musicians are just assholes waiting to

happen."



I love a good e-war.