Rickie Lee Jones Says 'Success Comes With A Lot Of Baggage'

Rickie Lee Jones' career begins in Hollywood, with a chance encounter with Tom Waits and her demo tape brought to the attention of Lenny Waronker, producer and executive at Warner Bros Records.

"It was a dream at the time because before that I was just trying to pay the rent," says Jones. "I had a boyfriend at the time who was in school and he encouraged me to go out and play and make money to pay the rent. That helped me get started. It was hard, I was homeless for a lot of the time and and I had nothing to fall back on. When it happened it happened very quickly."

"We live in a time where artists act like business people - they talk about the bottom line and their brand."

Jones says of the sudden jump to stardom, "I was 23 I wrote Chuck E's In Love and The Last Chance Texaco and I was on an unemployment benefit. Then, one year later, I was in a studio and recording an album. Once I decided in my mind to do it, it took about a year to 16 months," she recalls. "To be able to devote oneself to it is really helpful in gaining early success," she says, before adding "success, who doesn't want that? But it comes with a lot of baggage."

Jones' most recent album, The Other Side Of Desire, was her first in a decade and released independently after a crowdfunding campaign; making it a world apart from her experiences with major labels in the '70s and '80s.

"It feels good not to have any pressure from an outside person to meet their expectations. The thing I had going when I was first signed was they were the best label in the world, they had the best A&R and they just loved music. They dropped you if you didn't sell records but they didn't sign you and then drop you straight away, they tried to develop artists and they kept them on the label," she explains. "I was spoilt by that and know what it's like to be on a label run by a company that loves its business [clientele] more than 'business', that loves music and artists and doesn't try to make them act like business people. We live in a time where artists act like business people - they talk about the bottom line and their brand. They talk about the brand of Beyonce and the brand of Madonna, this is shameful in the arts. It shows the whole process is corrupted," says Jones, a tone of disillusionment creeping into her voice.

Jones sounds like she's in a great place musically and personally, as she looks to the future and what it may hold for her. "I am writing and I'm finishing a book which should be out around Christmas. I'm having fun right now performing and I can feel people engaged in ways that I didn't feel before. I've accepted my place in music and I like that I've lasted this long and I just want to keep working on it. When I stand in front of an audience I know exactly who I am and that is a great gift."